Although we don’t have Fox News, I was ultimately able to watch most of the debate on tape delay. By this time, you have either watched the debate and formed your own reactions, or heard others’ assessments, so we’ll just hit a few highlights.
It was a bit strange to see the seven male candidates – as well as the Fox moderator, Bret Baier — all in blue suits, white shirts, and red ties. Presumably, some clothing consultant has told the candidates that Republican voters like candidates that project red, white and blue. Being conditioned to Ronald Reagan’s presidential sartorial style – despite his undisputed patriotism, he managed without flag lapels and wore suits and ties in varying hues — I thought the male candidates looked like Mini-Mes of former President Donald Trump.
I indicated in a pre-debate post that a candidate I wanted to see was Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy. I wouldn’t have thought it possible for any bona fide presidential candidate sharing a stage with seven others to trigger such a strong negative reaction in me within 15 minutes, but Mr. Ramaswamy achieved it. He is an irritating, naïve, superficial, supercilious grandstander. He has learned one valuable lesson about Mr. Trump from Russian President Vladimir Putin, however; by saying nice things about Mr. Trump, it makes it significantly less likely that Mr. Trump will criticize him much (at least as long as Mr. Trump’s lead over him remains significant). One pronouncement, however: Mr. Trump will never pick Mr. Ramawamy for a running mate. Mr. Ramaswamy is too good a showman; Mr. Trump would never risk the possibility that he could be upstaged.
Six of the eight on stage – excluding former NJ Gov. Chris Christie and former AR Gov. Asa Hutchinson – agreed that they’d support former President Donald Trump if he is the Republican presidential nominee, although I believe that most indicated (I’m not sure about Mr. Ramaswamy) that they believe that President Joe Biden defeated Mr. Trump in 2020 and that Mr. Biden is, accordingly, the legal president of this country. Hearkening back to a point I posted recently, this means that those who have declared that they will support Mr. Trump – who continues to maintain that he won in 2020 – if he wins the nomination will do so although, given their conclusion about Mr. Biden’s legitimacy, they must necessarily consider the former president a traitor, a liar, or a lunatic.
Let me join the chorus: I thought former SC Gov. Nikki Haley had the best night. I thought former Vice President Mike Pence had a good night. She was strong on issue specifics; he was strong on duty (although he dated himself at times by parroting Mr. Reagan’s sayings). Putting aside wide differences I have with them on domestic policy, each looked like s/he was actually qualified to be president of the United States.
From a political handicapping standpoint, I thought the panel as a whole dug Republicans deep general election holes on abortion and spending. On the former, only Ms. Haley seemed to give herself some wiggle room to reassure moderate conservatives alarmed by the Republicans’ generally draconian position; on the latter, their mantra about cutting spending will ultimately run into Democrats’ claims that any cuts will impact Social Security and Medicare, programs hugely popular with the Trump populist wing of the party. Less apparent but every bit as irrational as some candidates’ acknowledgement of Mr. Biden’s legitimacy coupled with their pledge to support Mr. Trump if he is the Republican nominee was some candidates’ harrumphing about cutting taxes while simultaneously bemoaning our increasing deficit; anybody with a history book (admittedly, this may put FL Gov. Ron DeSantis at a disadvantage; such a potentially Woke reference may already be banned in Florida 😉 ) is aware that none of the tax cuts respectively wrought over the last 40 years by Mr. Reagan, President George W. Bush, and Mr. Trump “paid for themselves”; each increased our deficit. Finally, although I have seen some commentators disagree on this point since the debate, the strong support of Ukraine voiced by Ms. Haley, Mr. Pence and former NJ Gov. Chris Christie seemed to me to carry significantly more weight than Mr. DeSantis’ waffling or Mr. Ramaswamy’s naïvete.
A few quick snapshots. ND Gov. Doug Burgum didn’t seem to recognize that he’s not in North Dakota any more. Mr. Hutchinson seemed less grandfatherly and more conservative and strident than he’s appeared in some profiles I’ve seen, but his primary challenge seems to be Mr. Pence, arguably a better choice for Republicans seeking an ethical, grandfatherly figure. Mr. Christie pounded Mr. Trump effectively, but seems highly unlikely to win the nomination even if Mr. Trump falters – although if he finishes second to Mr. Trump in the New Hampshire primary, that will indicate notable general election weakness for Mr. Trump and I suspect cause significant pangs of regret for NH Gov. Chris Sununu, who six months ago I felt had the best shot of any potential primary challenger to Mr. Trump.
Again, conceding I’m joining the chorus: U.S. SC Sen. Tim Scott was less impressive than I expected. For a man who’s supposed to have a different and upbeat tone, to me he came across as programmed and grumpy. Watch for him to attack his fellow South Carolinian, Ms. Haley, pretty aggressively in the next debate, because she clearly stole the show from him and at most only one of them will emerge from the South Carolina primary. If she outscores him in Iowa and New Hampshire and rides momentum to beat him in their native Palmetto State, he’s done.
I’ve left the tallest sapling in the room for last. It took me a while, but I was finally able to conceptualize my impression of Mr. DeSantis in the context of the candidates’ discussion as to whether Mr. Pence did the right thing on January 6, 2021. They all, more or less – either definitively or hesitatingly – indicated that they felt that Mr. Pence had done his duty to protect our republic in the face of Mr. Trump’s unremitting hounding. The question I’d pose – not to them, but to you, is this:
If any of the other seven candidates on that stage had been subjected to the extreme pressure Mr. Pence endured, which do you feel would have performed to protect our republic as he did?
My gut says:
Mr. Burgum, Mr. Christie, Ms. Haley, Mr. Hutchinson, and Mr. Scott all would have done their duty.
I’m leaving Mr. Ramaswamy out of it; I’m not sure he’d know what his duty was.
Mr. DeSantis would have known the right path – but he would have caved under the pressure. Once I realized that was my visceral impression of him, I didn’t need to consider him any further.
Have a great Labor Day Weekend.
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